Comments on: You can love your daughters before they’re even born… http://downtownpastor.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/you-can-love-your-daughters-before-theyre-even-born/ Just another WordPress.com weblog Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:17:26 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: downtownpastor http://downtownpastor.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/you-can-love-your-daughters-before-theyre-even-born/#comment-164 downtownpastor Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:07:10 +0000 http://downtownpastor.wordpress.com/?p=415#comment-164 Hi Camille, thank you for visiting my blog, and for your kind words! The unflinching resolve of the church throughout the ages to protect and defend the lives of the marginalized (the young, the old, the sick, the weak, the disabled, etc.) is its perhaps the greatest complement to its message! Thanks for fostering! Hi Camille, thank you for visiting my blog, and for your kind words! The unflinching resolve of the church throughout the ages to protect and defend the lives of the marginalized (the young, the old, the sick, the weak, the disabled, etc.) is its perhaps the greatest complement to its message! Thanks for fostering!

]]> By: Camille http://downtownpastor.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/you-can-love-your-daughters-before-theyre-even-born/#comment-163 Camille Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:24:56 +0000 http://downtownpastor.wordpress.com/?p=415#comment-163 As always, your blog gives me something to chew on. Ironically, it was our heart for China's baby girls who are abandoned that led us down our road to where we are now fostering an "abandoned" baby from our neighborhood here in Portland. As always, your blog gives me something to chew on. Ironically, it was our heart for China’s baby girls who are abandoned that led us down our road to where we are now fostering an “abandoned” baby from our neighborhood here in Portland.

]]> By: downtownpastor http://downtownpastor.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/you-can-love-your-daughters-before-theyre-even-born/#comment-161 downtownpastor Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:37:03 +0000 http://downtownpastor.wordpress.com/?p=415#comment-161 Sorry, Joe, forgot to address your observations... Yes, ultrasound has become a dangerous tool for the selective aborting of infant babies in cultures with a deep-seated value for male children over females. May God have mercy. Sorry, Joe, forgot to address your observations… Yes, ultrasound has become a dangerous tool for the selective aborting of infant babies in cultures with a deep-seated value for male children over females. May God have mercy.

]]> By: downtownpastor http://downtownpastor.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/you-can-love-your-daughters-before-theyre-even-born/#comment-160 downtownpastor Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:35:07 +0000 http://downtownpastor.wordpress.com/?p=415#comment-160 One of the more endearing practices of the early Christian church was its commitment to gathering abandoned infants and raising them--almost all of them being girls, of course. In her book, "“Everything Conceivable: How Assisted Reproduction Is Changing Men, Women and the World,” Liza Mundy describes the increasingly common practice of selective infanticide practiced in the United States today--made possible through the new reproductive technologies available. Now, parents can have multiple embryos implanted through IVF, and subsequently evaluated/sorted by sex. When the parents are given to choice of which embryo to "reduce" (that's the word used in this area of reproductive medicine), they may choose either a male of female, as identified by the doctor. The procedure is called "selective reduction." The reason for the "multiples" (another term of the trade) is that, at 12K per procedure, IVF is very, very expensive. Therefore, multiple embryos/eggs are implanted, and the decision to "reduce" the number of children is made later, once it is assured that there is the correct number of children desired who are surviving. Mundy's book is not from a Christian standpoint, and seems more designed to inform its readers of this new industry in medicine. I haven't read it, but heard her in a interview on NPR and was fascinated by the discussion, and her insightful grasp of the details. Of course, it's an ethical mine field. Thanks, Joe, for reading my blog! One of the more endearing practices of the early Christian church was its commitment to gathering abandoned infants and raising them–almost all of them being girls, of course.
In her book, ““Everything Conceivable: How Assisted Reproduction Is Changing Men, Women and the World,” Liza Mundy describes the increasingly common practice of selective infanticide practiced in the United States today–made possible through the new reproductive technologies available. Now, parents can have multiple embryos implanted through IVF, and subsequently evaluated/sorted by sex. When the parents are given to choice of which embryo to “reduce” (that’s the word used in this area of reproductive medicine), they may choose either a male of female, as identified by the doctor. The procedure is called “selective reduction.” The reason for the “multiples” (another term of the trade) is that, at 12K per procedure, IVF is very, very expensive. Therefore, multiple embryos/eggs are implanted, and the decision to “reduce” the number of children is made later, once it is assured that there is the correct number of children desired who are surviving. Mundy’s book is not from a Christian standpoint, and seems more designed to inform its readers of this new industry in medicine. I haven’t read it, but heard her in a interview on NPR and was fascinated by the discussion, and her insightful grasp of the details. Of course, it’s an ethical mine field.
Thanks, Joe, for reading my blog!

]]> By: Joe Staub http://downtownpastor.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/you-can-love-your-daughters-before-theyre-even-born/#comment-159 Joe Staub Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:54:54 +0000 http://downtownpastor.wordpress.com/?p=415#comment-159 Ken, I had known about the "one child" policy in China since my seminary days, but I did not know that they selected the gender. This could only mean one of two things: 1) They used some kind of technology, like ultrasound, to discover the sex, 2) They practiced infanticide. Either way, infanticide or abortion is evil. But, I think infanticide is particularly callous! The ability to look a baby over, experience the baby personally, see the baby alive and healthy, and then kill it, is something out of the holocaust. It would be interesting to know to what degree infanticide is practiced in China. Ken,

I had known about the “one child” policy in China since my seminary days, but I did not know that they selected the gender. This could only mean one of two things: 1) They used some kind of technology, like ultrasound, to discover the sex, 2) They practiced infanticide. Either way, infanticide or abortion is evil. But, I think infanticide is particularly callous! The ability to look a baby over, experience the baby personally, see the baby alive and healthy, and then kill it, is something out of the holocaust. It would be interesting to know to what degree infanticide is practiced in China.

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